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Re: [WMASTERS] Selvaa's suggestions
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@From selvakum Sat Sep 27 21:39:09 1997
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@Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 21:39:02 -0400 (EDT)
@From: "C.R. Selvakumar" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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@Subject: Re: [WMASTERS] Selvaa's suggestions
@ Prof. Schiffman:
@ I asked a few questions and I've retained only relevant parts of
@ your answer. You've brought in many other issues which are
@ no doubt interesting but they open up a can of worms.
@ Based on your answer, Prof. Schiffman, I think, you had stated
@ and continue to make statements, not permitted by your data.
@* C.R.(Selva) Selvakumar wrote:
@*> Having explained my viewpoint, hopefully better,
@*> now I want to know why
@*> you believe in 'purism' of mythology and not 'purism' of language?
@*> [ may be the basis for this 'mythology', as you put it, is
@*> based on incorrect observations, but is your claim of
@*> 'pure' mythology based on some firm ground, if I may ask ?
@*> Just curious.]
@*that will destroy the language. There is no proof to this contention; I
@*do not have statistics on the failure of puristic movements, but the most
@*>  You claim that empirical study shows that purism is 'in general'
@*> counter-productive ( of what ?) and it leads to abandonment
@*> of the language in more cases than not. Please tell me how
@*> many cases have been studied. Why in some cases such abandonment
@*> did not take place ( as your statement says) ?
@*The only case I know of where revival and purism have worked is with
@*modern Israeli Hebrew, and that because it was an immigrant society (in
@*> Does it not proof-enough that 'purism' itself does not cause
@*So Israel is only one case; I don't see Tamilnadu as another Israel,
@*bucking the world trend on this. The problem with purism is that my
@*arguments (99% of cases fail, l% succeeds) are likely to be taken as proof
@ Here again you're making a statement I have much trouble accepting.
@  You have not got a large enough sample to make
@ such asserion, as I understand. Feel free to correct me.
@  The case of Hebrew is not, I think, 'purism' but a revival
@ of a dead language which has no relation to the case of
This should have been within quotes as 'a nearly dead language'
not as a dead language.
@ Tamil. Tamil has had a continuous life of great intensity
@ and variety ( as seen by epigraphical evidences and available
@ manuscripts). Your comparison seems ill-founded, as I see it.
@*that if ONE can do it, SO CAN TAMIL. I don't believe this, but as I said
@*earlier, we are not dealing with rationality here, we are dealing with
@*> ( I'm not advocating 'purism', only trying to understand your
@*> citation of empirical study). How was it proved
@*> that it was the 'purism' that caused abandonment and not other
@*> causes (say like migration, religious conversions, abandonment
@ C.R.(Selva) Selvakumar
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