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Re: [WMASTERS] charset and grantha
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C.R. Selvakumar wrote:
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> iNaiya naNbarkaLE:
> First I want to thank Prof. Hart, Kumar, Maa Angiah and
> Kathir for expressing their views about one or both
> of my two proposals about characters to be used in tamil and
> in the context of tamil-computing.
> I know many must be very busy at this time, but
> I would like to hear comments ( positive or negative or neutral),
> if it would be possible, from Tamil Nadu Standardization Committee
> members, Muthu, Dr. K. Srinivasan, Kalyan, Thiru Naa Govidasamy, Thiru
> Anbarasan, Thiru Nagu Chinnasamy,
> Mani Manivannan, Dr.N. Kannan of Germany, Dr. Anu, Dr. Sam
> Swaminathan, and several others like Gopinath, Dr. Vasu Ranganathan
> Dr. Kuppusamy(kalvi) et al.
> I've briefly described a proposal for writing an extended
> set of non-tamil phonemes. You can visit
> the following URL for more details:
> The merit of this system is that we avoid 8 or more explicit symbols
> but still we represent more phonemes. If we use this system even a
> few times, I believe, we'll quickly be able to assimilate the idea.
> When we read a word, normally we don't read all the individual
> letters but our eyes quickly pick up 'patterns' and learn to associate
> with the trained 'sound', so I believe, it won't take long for us
> to learn to ignore the first pure mey in a word that helps to modify the
> following letter etc.
> The second proposal is more conventional in the sense I've retained
> four common grantha letters plus the sri symbol, but I've added
> a symbol for 'fa' which looks very close to tamil 'va'. In addition
> I've suggested a new uyir (Ekaarath thiriboli which we can call it
> vERREkaaram, or puththEkaaram) for which I've provided two symbols.
> This second proposal is at the URL
> The drawback of the second proposal is it can not represent
> additional phonemes like G, B , Dh, D at the beginning of a
> word. Of course we can adopt a part of the previous proposal
> but that would be mixing two approaches less optimally.
> Further I've provided a character table, for a start, where the
> positions I've chosen can be changed, based on other considerations,
> if need be. I've devoted two places for diacritical markers
> specifically for a later needs such as to denote other phonemes.
> I've included greek symbol mu ( since it is used for micro meter and
> other purposes as well), copyright symbol and registered trade mark
> symbol. I've omitted nju, njU, ngu, ngU, but I've indicated how
> these can be written if ever we need to use. Also I've omitted
> the numerical symbols for 10, 100, 1000. In tamil we have symbols
> for various fractions etc. but these are not needed today. We
> need to move forward with some insight and also as Kumar puts it
> with some backward compatibility.
> When you find time please give some thought and consideration.
> anbudan selvaa
> @The attempts by Selva is remarkable in trying to
> @write grantha characters. On the other hand in his
> @character set he is adding another grantha (?) character
> @for fh sound.
> @I really like the idea of writing the grantha by using
> @"oitham". It will take a humongous effort to train ourselves
> @to write in that fashion. May be new grammer rules have to
> @be built to handle these styles.
> @On the other hand, having these characters provides
> @flexibility to the language to express some sounds
> @that are not present in the system. So what we should
> @do: Add more grantha characters (like fh) or drop all
> @these characters and resort for "Aitham"?
> @One best way is to keep these grantha characters for
> @transition in the character set and encourage people
> @to write these without grantha characters, use alternate
> @Tamil words (Like Maa. Angiah's efforts) and eventually
> @we may one day be able to live without these extra
> @characters. Until then, we should have them. I always
> @expects a backward compatibility to the earlier systems
> @how so ever falty the earlier system is. It may be
> @hindering the development in rocket speed but will allow
> @everyone to catch-up with the development.
> @Even when E.V.Ra introduced new schemes to get rid of ORNL
> @the T.N. Govt., did not phase out these ORNL over night. They
> @allowed a time period for everyone to change and adapt to the new
> @system. That is the way it should be.
> @Kumar Mallikarjunan, Ph.D.
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